The Female of the Species

Firstly, let me post a link to an open letter by Melissa Draper to the Open Source community, complaining about discriminatory behaviour towards women, which discourages them to participate in the community, which is the reason why, according to polls, only 1.5% of the community are female.

Next up, an impassioned message from writer-producer-director-god Joss Whedon, concerning a male-dominated world, the society that propagates it, and the reasons why he thinks it happens. He has some good points.

Finally, an article from kuro5hin about the whole Kathy Sierra fiasco. (If you don't know, Kathy Sierra received some insulting comments on her blog and rather tasteless pictures (involving nooses, etc) were posted about her, which she felt amounted to death threats, and panicked, and cancelled her appearance at a conference.) I know that the article's title is "I Want to Stab You to Death and Play with Your Blood". Please try to read it anyway. It makes some more good points.

One more link. You don't have to read them all. (You don't have to read any of them.) This post is from Violent Acres, and the salient bits are probably:

If I’m somehow making you feel bad, it’s because you are letting me. You are giving me that power. The only way I could make you feel bad is if you placed more importance on my opinion than you do your own.
and
Why should my self esteem be so fragile [...]?
It shouldn’t. But if it does, perhaps you need to look inwardly to find what is lacking as opposed to playing the part of the victim being bullied by the big, bad Internet. The Internet hurts you only when you let it.

One more quote from somebody else. One of the commenters on Melissa's open letter said:

One of the things about geek culture is that there tends to be a certain self-deprecating humour throughout. We make jokes about *everyone*. We make jokes about people we like, we make jokes of people we dislike, and we even make jokes about ourselves.

If you don’t want people to make jokes about you, that’s fine - but bear in mind that what you are saying is “Treat me differently, because I want to be treated like everyone else”. It’s not really fair, is it?

We’ll stop making jokes about women being terrible drivers when women stop making jokes about men being terrible at cooking, terrible at cleaning, being insensitive, or any of the other stereotypes that women make fun of men for.

In the meantime, learn to give as good as you get. It will get you a lot further.

So, we've pretty much gone the gamut. What do I have to say? Not an awful lot, really. I'm a white male upper-middle class guy with a British passport. What the hell do I know about persecution and discrimination? I get called soutie by Stellenbosch people, but I think that's about as extreme as it gets. I can have no understanding of what it's like for Melissa or Kathy. I do have a gut feeling that one can be over-sensitive when people needle you, which makes you a more pleasing target to a certain more vicious type of troll, and invites more needling. I do have a sense that one can only be offended by people if one lets them offend you. But at the same time, I haven't been on the receiving end of a lifetime of glass ceilings and persecution. If I had been, maybe I wouldn't say "just ignore them, they'll go away" as if it was that easy. Just because I put Joss Whedon's article early on in this post doesn't mean I don't agree with it more than any of the others.

I think my point is, think about it. Whichever end you're on.

Update: Moving from the general topic of discrimination to the more specific topic of Melissa's grievance against the open source community... I think maybe the best response was just given to me by a friend of mine:

Melissa, your take on it is wrong.
The "open source community" is not insensitive to women.
It's insensitive, period.
Wise up.
Good luck.
Kbye.

Update: I didn't realise that one of the most vociferous commenters on Melissa's original open letter was actually one of our very own Capetonians! Jane has written a long post about Melissa's letter...

Comments

C'est logic

It's rather like laws against sodomy do not discriminate against gay men. They apply just as much to straight men. Dumb queers! They reason like women!

Humm, interesting

Humm, interesting comments.

I find I am torn between being a victim and a victimizer all the time. I'm a female who refuses to be called a feminist and I am overly hostile to women who think its their duty to be one. However, I go see Chippendale shows and pronounce I would be upset if there was a female version. I carry pepper spray, yet proclaim the train and public transport isn't as dangerous as people would like you to believe. I am meek and mild when it comes to computers, but not because I find the community dominated by males, but simply because I've come to rely on my Jonathan to fix every blue screen that comes my way. Yet I would sit through your GeekDinners gladly. I bitch about Affirmative Action (gender and race wise) yet I firmly believe I would scream bloody murder if someone didn't hire me based on gender or race.

The beauty of life is that we can be hypocrites and in fact its our duty to be so.

Thing is, if you wall off

Thing is, if you wall off everyone so that they cannot offend you, you get to lose out on all the good things that come with not cutting them off. Which, of course, you'll do some of the time, but it's a pretty dire state to be in.

Drop the guard and the first strike is going to hit home. Which is where I think the persecution comes in. Go through years of that and you're going to be that much more 'raw'. (Or so scarred that you have a nice, cynical wall?) So, you get hit harder, which makes it more difficult to recover and then you get hit again having lost your footing. (I move ever so deftly between my metaphors.) Of course, by now you're 'too sensitive'.

So, in a sense you have to treat her differently to treat her the same because she is more sensitive...but then, you're treating her differently and she's not quite one of the boys. I'd guess the solution is to play nice until you've built up enough trust to play "mean". A sort of social affirmative action?

Hey interesting points

Hey interesting points raised - I'm with the whole idea that on eshould not be treated differently for any reason other than if they a serious handicap. I am however quite thick-skinned and don't often take offence even when people mean to offend me, so that could be why I think the way I do. Perplexing issues all. If we can't ahve freedom of speech in this global medium then the world is in for a lot worse than a few sexist remarks.

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